There are no real witnesses on here. I mean, no active witnesses. They would get disfellowshipped & shunned just for even looking at this website! Remember, the "APOSTATES" have commited the supposedly unforgiveable sin, so they wouldn't come in & associate with us or try to help us, since we're a lost cause & all. If someone is on this site- they have doubts, have left, are leaving, or want to leave. Pure & simple. For those who have been witnesses- you know the "terminology" & what is allowed & what isn't allowed- so just view their postings & you can tell if they are legit or not.
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Jws that post here
by WildTurkey indo you think these people, who come in here, on this board and defend jws are for real?
do you think they really are good little jws?
do you think they really want to help us, or just start trouble?
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TERMINOLOGY
by Perfection Seeker infor those of you who have successfully left the organization, how long till the "terminology" leaves?
you know "the truth" "worldly" "the brotherhood" etc.
just curious how long till i'm cured :-)
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For those of you who have SUCCESSFULLY left the organization, how long till the "TERMINOLOGY" leaves? You know "the truth" "Worldly" "The Brotherhood" etc. Just curious how long till I'm cured :-)
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Ladies - what's your favourite men's cologne?
by Beck_Melbourne injust a bit of fluff...what's your favourite men's cologne or women's perfume scent?.
have you ever got a gentle wiff of a really nice cologne and wanted to ask the owner what the name of it is??
if its a woman i will ask, only because i want to go out and buy some.
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Aspen for men- Opium for women :-)
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Are there any ex-missionaries here??
by fulano ini have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.
and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.
ere other experiences?
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I have no answers to what you are asking, but I do have a question for you- when you were in the height of your service, did you truly believe in the organization? I mean, I believe in Jehovah & God- but do not & have not ever believed in the organization. What led you to leave? Do you have any regrets or doubts? Just curious :-)
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Top STUPID criticisms of the WTS
by JanH inthere are certainly enough valid criticisms of the wts and the jw religion, but a significant number of often-repeated criticisms of the religion are, imnsho, just ludicruous and serves to take attention away from the real issues.
significant problems with the wts includes, but are not limited to, the shunning policy, the blood issue and of course the corporate policy of hiding child molestors.. here is a list of criticisms of the wts that i find particularly annoying to see:.
russell was a freemason (or, even worse, the wts is part of some other large-scale conspiracy like the illuminati).
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I wish I had more to add to this one! The only thing I can say- I've been telling my mom for months that the bible says do not add or minus from the word- yet witnesses add & minus from the bible! They just don't see it- they say the society took out the thees & thous- they think that is all that has changed! My question- do you think that it is the MODERN day witnesses fault for being misled- or the ones who started it & are brainwashing them? Alot of them are good people that are just misled- I don't hold offense to them personally, I feel sorry for them for not seeing the truth. Not their truth, either!
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How many here still pretend?
by TweetieBird in.
i know this subject has been covered numerous times before, but the board constantly gets new people.. how many here still attend meetings, go in service, etc.
even though you don't believe it's the truth?
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Wow- this was written for me! I have been pretending my whole life! I haven't been to any meetings since December- except the memorial, and STILL get cargroups stopping every Saturday morning! My family is so embedded- I don't think if I tatooed CULT on my forehead they would get the hint! Sure, they are worried about me- but never really think I am apostate or doubting, they just think I am lazy & don't want to get up on Sunday mornings. If only they knew I've been going to church since December- happily- never missed one session, and its an hour earlier than the Kingdom Hall meeting! :-) Wouldn't it be cool to have TWO people from the same congregation leave together- have quite the show? My sister & I always joked about starting to yell at the hall- THIS IS A CROCK OF SH**- or doing SOMETHING to russle them up. But, knowing the group, they'd just say "that poor sister" or see, the bible is right- whatever! My only regret is that I didn't make a CLEAN break 12 years ago when I made a mental break- the wasted years- the sorrows, the pain- I could be totally healed by now!!
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WHY D.A YOURSELF??
by In_between_days inhi guys,.
this is a question for those that have dissasociated yourselves, and it might seem really stupid.. a while back i had a conversation with my parents in which i claimed that if i had ever been baptised i would have certainly dissasociated myself.
i asked whether or not they would still have contact with me.. they said yes, but would avoid having me at family gatherings.. i was not happy with this, but at least it was'nt as bad as shunning.. despite my standing now, my parents are now starting to get over it, and have been great, i cannot imagine my parents shunning me, despite anything i am still their daughter.
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HI! I was wondering if anyone knows the process with disassociating yourself? It is basically just like being disfellowshipped as far as the congregation is concerned? I mean, still shunned, etc. I wonder for people who might think of rejoining (NOT ME) if it is easier, harder or same to get back in good graces after being disassociated, disfellowshipped? Also, for those EX witnesses- when does this TERMINOLOGY wear off? Leaving "THE TRUTH" "WORLDY" blah blah blah?!?!?!?
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How do YOU deal with it??
by bad_associashun inhello all- recently joined, had some probs getting logged in, but here at last.... anyway, the question is: for those that can relate, when your heart feels heavy from the hurt, pain, regret, sorrow, bitterness, anger... and the lost years, stolen time, forsaken friends, broken relationships, wasted energies, abandonment, and lost love weighs on you --> caused by wt org.
stress.... how do you get past it?
what heals you, brings you relief, rescues you from total worthless feelings of inadequacy, comforts your wounds, keeps you from jumping on the train tracks?.
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People have sued before! They say it is defamation of character to announce disfellowshipping in front of everyone, and that so called ANNONYMOUS talk they give the night of the dissing that does everything but say the persons name. "Sexual immorality is wrong. A person who does this should be immediately disfellowshipped." By the way, sister smith has been disfellowshipped! Yeah, right! Lets throw a party together! I'm ready to celebrate my BIRTH into REALITY! :-)
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Is there life AFTER leaving?!!??!
by Perfection Seeker inmy name is melissa.
i am 33 years old.
my parents started studying when i was 5. i am trying to leave the orgainization, but keep getting pulled back in.
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Sentinal- thank you for that heart felt letter. It really does help each time I read or hear of someone elses story. I have torn about the religious aspects of the Witnesses, read the crisis of conscience- what an eye opener! I am really ok leaving the doctrines behind, but leaving the whole family is where I am at right now. BUT, my husband & I NEED to work on OUR lives, not mold for everyone else. I think it will be hard, but doable. I do feel sorry for my family- they are so wrapped up- they have no idea! I told my mom she is brainwashed- she said "Then I must need brainwashed" They just don't see it. But, the part I am sad about- I think I can live without my family, sad, but I can do it- but the guilt they lay on you about EACH ONE OF THEM living without me, and the mental anguish they put on you- like its all about them! Never been very selfish- but now I have to be. The ONLY thing that bothers me- is people writing in here after 10, 20 years of leaving, and they are STILL messed up. I wish I could hypnotize myself or bump my head & forget it all! People who have NOT been a witness just can't understand. I just think it is so sad. Thanks for your story. God bless!
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How do YOU deal with it??
by bad_associashun inhello all- recently joined, had some probs getting logged in, but here at last.... anyway, the question is: for those that can relate, when your heart feels heavy from the hurt, pain, regret, sorrow, bitterness, anger... and the lost years, stolen time, forsaken friends, broken relationships, wasted energies, abandonment, and lost love weighs on you --> caused by wt org.
stress.... how do you get past it?
what heals you, brings you relief, rescues you from total worthless feelings of inadequacy, comforts your wounds, keeps you from jumping on the train tracks?.
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HI! I have been disfellowshipped before, got reinstated, just so I could "have" my family. Now, with another disfellowshipping probably on the way- makes me look back over the years. When I got reinstated- everyone shook my hand- but were AFRAID because the elders said not to "throw a party" so to speak. Heck, if someone RETURNS, why NOT throw a party? Doesn't the scriptures say an angel rejoices over the lost sheep returning. (Not exact words- been awhile) I did all the work- going to meetings for a year, to get reinstated, and yes, it was for show only, so maybe they knew that, but according to the "elders" I was good enough to get reinstated- which surely means Jehovah wanted me, too- since EVERYTHING is divine direction in the organization, yet when you "come back" the way they treat you- like a stranger- distance themselves till you FURTHER prove yourself- what a crock! How about wiping the slate clean? When I got babtized in 92- right before (Gee, thanks) they said it would be INAPPROPRIATE to throw a party or give gifts to newly babtized people. Give me a break. No birthdays, no Christmas- you'd think that is one day you would CELEBRATE!! Give me a break. Man, only been on this website a few days- and have already made greater strides reading & posting than I have for the past 7 years! "VENTING" to others who understands is definetly where it is at!